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This site is a temporary home for our posts while our formal blog on MyPerfectMove.ca gets up and running.

For now, this will primarily be transcripts of the Twitter chat we moderate under the hashtag #movechat. Follow this link to learn how to do a Twitter chat.

Tuesday, January 25, 2011

#Movechat Digest: Third Party Services

Every Tuesday at 1PM Central Time, Portage Cartage moderates a Twitter-based "movechat" for movers and consumers looking for information on moving.  The topic of today's movechat was Third Party Services.  Below is the abridged transcript of the questions and the responses.

Q1 - What are some of the common third party services you need along with a move?
LocateLance     Q1: Appliances, crates.
HolmanMoving     Pet relocation is a big one for a lot of people, which is completely understandable of course!
PortageCartage     We'll add vehicle transport, house cleaning, pet transportation, pool tables... any others?
HolmanMoving     Pianos require a special touch and usually require third party support.
PortageCartage     Yep - I wonder if @petrelocation would be interested in this movechat?
HolmanMoving     I would think so!
movertim     wow you covered allmost all 3rd party, how about Piano svc
PortageCartage     @LHFAUTO If you've got a few minutes we'd love to have your thoughts on 3rd party services used during moving. Watch for hashtag #movechat
HolmanMoving     We had to get a customer's turtle to China once. They require a special veterinary certification to travel - not many vets do it!


Q2 - As a mover, what frustrates you about 3rd party providers?
HolmanMoving     The quality of third party services can make or break a mover. They have to be punctual, professional and great with the customer.
MovePoint     Not being on time
PortageCartage     Agreed - often customers take a day off to meet providers and if the provider doesn't show... #badmojo
HolmanMoving     Grounds for dismissal.
movinggal     3rd party vendors have value- they can offer ur cust. more srvs. However, u must choose well because u have ur rep on the line.
HolmanMoving     Being late is one of my biggest pet peeves.
PortageCartage     Proactive communication is important. I want to know when they'll be on site & how it went without tracking them down.
HolmanMoving     Very good point.
AJStephensonRem     Q2 your promise must be carried out and not compromised

Q3 - What lessons have you learned when selecting a provider?
HolmanMoving     References are ALWAYS a good idea :-)
MovePoint     A3: - Get referrals
movinggal     Clear contractual terms up front with your vendor help to clarify the relationship. Also, good contract management helps.
PortageCartage     We get our providers to sign a Service Agreement form, detailing expectations on communication, billing, service, etc.
PortageCartage     Let's expand on Q3: Have you ever been burned by a 3rd party provider? Describe.
movinggal     Agree with @MovePoint. So important to get referrals and feedback from customers when available.
PortageCartage     Here's one: We had preapproved costs for one provider, but he phoned client to say he didn't have approval and didn't show.
MovePoint     ouch
PortageCartage     It was a series of communication failures within the provider's co, but it still made us look bad. Probably not using them again.
xpressmovers     Oh, who hasn't been? Just recently in December we got burned bad on a job we couldn't do because of weather.
PortageCartage     Was that weather one a preventable problem?
xpressmovers     Nope, weather and driving conditions in Chicago didn't allow us to load the customer within the time frame.
xpressmovers     Finding good service providers is not easy. There are so many bad apples that can ruin your day.
movinggal     I have been burned by a 3rd prty vendor on my own move. He did not show up and crate my antique hutch & it broke in storage.
PortageCartage     Yikes! Did they accept responsibility?
movinggal     The moving company had to bail them out but it still did not cover the replacement value. Lots of drama...
   
Q4 - Do you always get multiple quotes, or do you pick a provider and stick with them?
MovePoint     One or two quotes at the most, But, once we find a reliable provider we will usually stick with them.
xpressmovers     RT @MovePoint: One or two quotes at the most, But, once we find a reliable provider we will usually stick with them.
PortageCartage     We're the same way. The moving process happens too quickly to get multiple quotes all the time.
HolmanMoving     We are pretty loyal so if we have a reliable provider that we like, we'll stick with them.
PortageCartage     Any providers listening should definitely take note: treat movers well, and we'll never go to tender.
HolmanMoving     I think cuz we know what it's like to be a service provider - if we do great work, we want clients to be loyal!
PortageCartage     Great point!
   
Get out your Rolodex for Q5 - Who are some of your favorite service providers? Drop names & Twitter IDs if you got 'em.
PortageCartage     We love using KeeWest for auto transport in Canada; great rates, house-2-house service, and fast.
PortageCartage     We're also very happy with Lyon Petmobile Services, for anywhere in North America.
xpressmovers     Q5: We use Victory Van Lines out of Rockville, MD for over 1 year now and so far I can't say 1 bad word about their service.
PortageCartage     Within Winnipeg I prefer Clean & Tidy for any carpet cleaning needed after the move.
HolmanMoving     Shout out to MSS (Movers Specialty Service)! They are fantastic.
PortageCartage     Let's build up a few of our favorite vendors here and reward them for their great service! No ad revenue required. :)
MovePoint     Agreed!!
PortageCartage     As we close out the chat, I challenge each of you to Tweet positive things today about companies you love for 3rd party work.

PortageCartage     Thanks to all who participated! We'll post a digest of the chat shortly. Next week's topic will be "Creating Repeat Business."

Tuesday, January 18, 2011

#Movechat Digest: Sales Secrets

Every Tuesday at 1PM Central Time, Portage Cartage moderates a Twitter-based "movechat" for movers and consumers looking for information on moving.  The topic of today's movechat was Sales Secrets.  Below is the abridged transcript of the questions and the responses.

Q1 - What is your company's sales philosophy?
movertim    Be honest, be sincere,
movinggal    My company's philosophy is providing the customer with some calm in the chaos of moving by providing info.
PortageCartage    Can we assume that nobody in this chat uses the lowball-estimate, high-actual-cost scam?
xpressmovers    I don't know Portage, I hope so.
xpressmovers    Lowball-estimate practice is very common. During the slow period, we get lot's of customer feedback, that our estimates are high.
xpressmovers    When we ask the potential customers, what others are giving the numbers are scary.
PortageCartage    We've definitely lost bids to the lowball tactic. Have you?
xpressmovers    Many times. Just this month we lost at least 4 long distance jobs because of low-balling.
movinggal    The unfortunate bit about low balling is the customer doesn't realize they may have been taken until they try to take possession.
movinggal    More has to be done to educate the consumer. I have written a blog post on avoiding potential scams.
PortageCartage    Hmm. What can customers do to protect themselves against this low-balling tactic? The appeal of a lower estimate is strong.
ReddingRelo    I'm in a different part of the biz but lowball offers are scary. Ask, "What part of the service don't you want?"
PortageCartage    We appreciate all perspectives here. And that's a great question to ask. You get what you pay for!  
xpressmovers    Regardless of what we write, say, people always fall for the low cost as they want to save money on their move.
ReloMary    information is golden - lowball pricing should simply set off radar every time
movinggal    Maybe providing them a list or questionnaire that lists the services with your est. so they can compare to other co.
MovePoint    I agree with @movinggal a detailed list is good. 
MovePoint    Let your them know what they should expect from a lowball offer Demonstrate how you & your staff r certified, licensed pros.
Q2 - Are there any sales training courses in which you enroll your sales force?
PortageCartage    For ourselves, we use material from David Sandler and @gitomer.
PortageCartage    We also send our sales staff to an annual learning conference hosted by our van line head office.
PortageCartage    Let's change Q2 a bit: What books would you recommend in order to be a more effective salesperson? Ask around in your office.
PortageCartage    For books, The Power of Positive Thinking comes to mind, as does How To Win Friends and Influence People.
ReddingRelo    Napoleon Hill's Keys to Success - The 17 Principles of Personal Achievement
xpressmovers    I personally listen to motivational speakers and read different books on the subject. Thinking positive is a key to success.
MovePoint    Raving Fans, Spencer Johnson, M.D.
Let's see if Q3 shakes things up: Do your salespeople have relationships (i.e. golf) with their direct competitors? ...and if so, is there anything wrong with that?
movinggal    It doesn't apply to me yet but I am a firm believer of keeping folks close even competitors. It helps you both in the long run.
MovePoint    I think if the relationship can perhaps can build a amicable working relationship it is not a bad idea.
PortageCartage    What are the benefits of this type of business relationship?
movinggal    I don't think those relationships are wrong as long as they are managed properly and you have confidence in ur sales staff.
MovePoint    It can be a great referral source. Plus maybe you can give job away that you cannot or don't want to do. :)
xpressmovers    There is nothing wrong of being a friend with the competition. Always something good can come up from that.
Our final question: Q4 - What role does technology (incl. social media) play in your sales methods?
movinggal    SM is key to getting your co noticed and offer customers info ahead of time when they r doing research online.
MovePoint    Done right SM can be leveraged amazingly ppl will most likely use a co that's been referred to them or have had interactions with
movinggal    Bldg a social network also helps give the customer confidence in your products and services.
PortageCartage    Like in Trust Agents!
PortageCartage    Our sales staff use tablet PCs to do an in-home inventory & proprietary software to prepare an estimate. =legible
ReloMary    Testimonials on LI are valuable regarding online SM - it's good for clients to realize you're IN BUSINESS! :-)
xpressmovers    Technology/Internet is changing the way people shop for services. The better you adapt to the new way, the better they will become
xpressmovers    Portage what software solution do you use?
PortageCartage    It's one that @mayflowercanada, our van line, built in-house and provides gratis. A little buggy but overall OK.
PortageCartage    I think that wraps it up for today, but feel free to keep chatting.
PortageCartage    Spread the word among the movers you know for next week: topic will be 'Third Party Services.'

Monday, January 17, 2011

How To Do A Twitter Chat

When we first started getting into Twitter here at Portage Cartage, we stumbled across a few other movers online.  One of them, Moishe's Moving in New York City, invited us to participate in #movechat.

The terminology and the hashtag (the # symbol) confused us at first.  But we absorbed a few tips, stumbled our way through it, and over the chats in the subsequent weeks we got the hang of it.

#Movechat will continue for the foreseeable future.  In fact, we have become one of the moderators.  As more and more movers embrace social media, it stands to reason that they will need a primer on how to participate in this manifestation of Twitter's abilities.  Here it is:

  1. In order to participate in the chat fully, you need to do two things. First, all of your tweets must have the proper hashtag.  Second, you need to see the other tweets coming in with the same hashtag.  Fortunately, there are utilities which can help you do both at the same time.  Our favourite is www.tweetchat.com.  Sign in by authorizing access to your Twitter account, and specify the chat you wish to follow.  You will see a stream of tweets with that tag on it, and the text box in which you type your message will invisibly attach the hashtag to everything you send out.
  2. Shortly before the session starts, inform your followers that you will be tweeting on a theme for the next hour.  Include the hashtag in your tweet.  Those who don't want to see those tweets can filter out anything with that hashtag.
  3. The chat session will consist of questions posed by the moderators, usually with a Q1, Q2, etc in front of it.  Respond to the question by prefacing your answer with Q1 (or A1) to make it easier for others to connect the dots.
  4. You don't have to respond to every question.  Chime in if you have something worth saying, but if you can't contribute to the discussion, there's nothing wrong with just lurking and absorbing what you see others say.
  5. When you agree with a comment, the common courtesy is to re-tweet it.
  6. If you want others to be able to re-tweet your comment, keep it below 110 characters (10 for the auto-hashtag, and 20 for the RT info).
  7. Finally, don't feed the trolls.
Got any more tips?  Leave a comment and let us know!

    Tuesday, January 11, 2011

    #Movechat Digest: Moving For Seniors

    Every Tuesday at 1PM Central Time, Portage Cartage moderates a Twitter-based "movechat" for movers and consumers looking for information on moving.  The topic of today's movechat was Moving For Seniors.  Below is the abridged transcript of the questions and the responses.


    Q1 - What portion of your business is for the 60+ crowd?
    movertim     I thinx gotta be around 30-35%
    HolmanMoving     Gosh, its hard to assign a specific percentage (cause I didn't do my homework) but I'd say a third or more in NY Metro.
    PortageCartage     Our own experience is much the same - about a third. It's sure to grow in coming years too.
    xpressmovers     I'd say 15-20% of our total business is from Senior citizens.
    PortageCartage     OK, but does the physical condition of a 30 yr old vs a 60 yr old play a part in the decision to hire a mover?
    MattKincaid     Thanks @PortageCartage! I would say that approximately 15-20% of our business is for the 60+ crowd.
    movertim     In some cases, but some of the younger ones have no time as they are working to keep up
    PortageCartage     Here's a follow up question: When a senior refers your company to another senior, is that more powerful than a GenY referral?
    xpressmovers     I think age is not the factor when it comes to make the decision to hire a mover
    HolmanMoving     But consequences of age are - younger folks may find a full service move expensive.
    movertim     Then it comes down to service as we have discussed in the past
    movertim     If we as movers do our job and educate and sell the move the right way $$$ do not make as a big a deal as some may think

    Q2 - How is servicing seniors different than servicing younger people?
    movertim     with seniors I find you need to be more gentle and patient with them
    HolmanMoving     Absolutely.
    xpressmovers     More understanding and patience is required to get the move done right and according to the customer's requirements.
    HolmanMoving     Also, more sensitivity. They may not be moving because they want to - it could be a sad time.
    movertim     Seniors need to be treated with kit" gloves, treat them as your own family
    MattKincaid     The approach to managing seniors' expectations is much different that that of younger transferees.
    PortageCartage     At some point, a senior's move will be their last one. Everybody on staff has to be sensitive to that fact.
    PortageCartage     What about the "scam" factor? How do you demonstrate to seniors that you're not going to take advantage of them?
    HolmanMoving     Great question. Readily available information (in hard copy and online) and personal customer references.
    movertim     Take the dollar sign off your forehead, and be sincere show them you are different
    xpressmovers     Most senior citizens still use yellow books to find their movers. In most cases scam artists use the web to promote themselves.
    PortageCartage     Great insight!
    xpressmovers     I think there are not so many scams with senior moves as they prefer to use companies they've heard.
    HolmanMoving     True, but this is changing rapidly. Yellow books will be obsolete in 5 years.
    movertim     But there are dirty movers who use yellow page advertising
    HolmanMoving     Seniors do have better access to qualified word of mouth.
    movertim     that is very true
    HolmanMoving     I have serious issues with Yellow Page marketing tactics.
    xpressmovers     The experience seniors have from previous moves also helps them find the right choice for them, family can also help too.
    PortageCartage     Indeed - it's the way things were done before Web 2.0, and it still has big impact.
    movertim     social media thats the way of the present and future
    xpressmovers     We no longer get listed in Yellowpages, we find it very expensive way to attract customers.
    PortageCartage     Social media is a rising force, yes, but old fashioned word of mouth will be around for a long time yet.
    HolmanMoving     I think this is becoming more common. Good for you for making the change.
    movertim     yet we in the great white North still need that avenue of the yellow page ad
    HolmanMoving     Social media is word of mouth on steroids. They are one and the same :-)
    PortageCartage     It's a sheep in sheep's clothing.
    xpressmovers     Word of mouth will be the king forever.

    Q3 - What can seniors do to make moving easier for themselves?
    movertim     Hire a reputable mover, and dont let family help
    HolmanMoving     Plan way ahead to reduce stress. Don't be stubborn about asking for help.
    movertim     Having a profesional pack heavy items
    PortageCartage     Barry in our office says that a senior move often involves downsizing. Make sure they understand their new space constraints.
    PortageCartage     And Richard here says he encourages seniors to let us do the hard work - packing picture cartons, for example.
    movinggal     Definitely planning ahead will help tremendously. Seeking out some volunteer org to help.
    movertim     Having the right mover and the proper advice will make things flow smooth

    Q4 - What do you as a mover do to make moving easier for seniors?
    TwinCityMoving     Do you offer senior discounts via your tariff if applicable?
    PortageCartage     Senior discounts are important, yes. 

    movertim     Give a clean and guaranteed estimate, send your #1 crew to handle the task
    xpressmovers     I personally take the time to meet them, find about their plans, expectations and guide them through out the whole process
    movinggal     I think making moving information packets in large print and taking the time to meet with them to go over expectations will help.
    movertim     Older folks are alot like kids, they need to be shown what is what but with a lot of respect
    PortageCartage     I would suggest that applies to anybody who doesn't know the moving industry, not just seniors.
    movinggal     As the baby boomers age, hit retirement & downsize, I foresee this as a large potential market to serve.
    PortageCartage     Great word there - "Serve."
    movertim     Most seniors have the funds ready for moving, besides when I move I will sell all and start fresh
    movinggal     Getting the service element right will make attempts at tapping into this market a success.
    PortageCartage     I recall one senior move where the crew unloaded the table & chairs first so the couple could sit to monitor the delivery.
    movinggal     A tiered approach, may help. You will serve seniors that are active & don't need much help & you will have some who are frail.
    movinggal     Having a way to work with family or friends who are helping a frail or a senior who needs help with affairs, would set you apart.
    PortageCartage     True! Often an adult child will help organize & execute the move. Got to be able to work with them well.
    movertim     But be carefull some family members have hidden agendas

    PortageCartage     Well that DONG you hear is the clock striking the hour. Thanks everybody for pitching in today!